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Fwd. from the Bike-Friendly Berkeley Coalition list:
The Emeryville Horton/Overland Bicycle Boulevard Design recommendations are on the agenda of next Emeryville City Council meeting on Tuesday, September 6th, as part of the Transportation Committee report which is usually at the end of the Council Agenda.
At Transportation Committee Meeting on August 23rd, the Committee voted to recommend to the Council that design package used by Berkeley be accepted, except for one change to the street name sign design. Instead of using the purple street name signs the Committee recommended that the BB logo (the family of bicycle riders design) be put onto a purple half-circular sign and mounted on top of the existing street name signs.
You can see a map of the new Emeryville Boulevard by zooming at: www.obviously.com/berkeley/...nning.html
The Emeryville Horton/Overland Bicycle Boulevard Design recommendations are on the agenda of next Emeryville City Council meeting on Tuesday, September 6th, as part of the Transportation Committee report which is usually at the end of the Council Agenda.
At Transportation Committee Meeting on August 23rd, the Committee voted to recommend to the Council that design package used by Berkeley be accepted, except for one change to the street name sign design. Instead of using the purple street name signs the Committee recommended that the BB logo (the family of bicycle riders design) be put onto a purple half-circular sign and mounted on top of the existing street name signs.
You can see a map of the new Emeryville Boulevard by zooming at: www.obviously.com/berkeley/...nning.html
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Re: Emeryville Bike Blvd.
Sun, October 9, 2005 - 2:53 PMGreat....progress. I ride my bike in Emeryville every day, and I think it's even more stressful than driving a car in Emeryville, which can already be rather frustrating.
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Re: Emeryville Bike Blvd.
Sun, October 9, 2005 - 3:01 PMI think bike boulevards are nice to attract casual cyclists or those who are uncomfortable with riding in traffic, but I have to say that they feel like bike segregation to those not really afraid of traffic.
Bike boulevards are always slower, with many more stop signs than, say, San Pablo. Now San Pablo isn't pretty, and if you're out for a cruise, use 4th St. by all means, but I hate to be segregated into these slow secondary arteries - there's one in Berkeley specifically next to Shattuck that's kind of ridiculous.
I don't encourage people to get into dangerous situations or beyond their comfort zone or anything, but until bike boulevards allow one to travel as unimpeded as the major arteries, I won't be choosing them.
Market St. in North Oakland is a perfect example of a good bike lane - big fast main artery where you have the right of way and are stopped by only the occasional stop sign. -
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Re: Emeryville Bike Blvd.
Sun, October 9, 2005 - 3:06 PMI think I save time by using bike boulevards in Berkeley.
Take Milvia, next to Shattuck, for example. Sure there are stop signs, but I usually don't stop, just slow down, since most of them are 4 way stops anyway. Shattuck has a lot of traffic lights. I find they slow me down more. Also, the cars seem more willing to yield the right of way on a bike boulevard.
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Re: Emeryville Bike Blvd.
Sun, October 9, 2005 - 5:36 PM> I think bike boulevards are nice to attract casual cyclists or those who are uncomfortable with riding in traffic, but I have to say that they feel like bike segregation to those not really afraid of traffic.
I'm unafraid to cycle in traffic (with the exception of SF's Financial District where gonzo bike messengers, taxi drivers and crazy drivers and jaywalkers make a deathly brew) and I like bike lanes and bike boulevards. Totally separate bike arteries would make me happy. I dig the bike network they have in Anchorage, AK. You can cycle cross town without traffic lights or stop signs. -
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Re: Emeryville Bike Blvd.
Sun, October 9, 2005 - 10:48 PMwow. That might be enough to put on the mukluks and bike tires with chains and make a go of it. Yeah, there's something to be said for both, and when I'm in a "stop and smell the roses" mood I look for the bike boulevards.
I'm conflicted about bike boulevards vis a vis not stopping for stop signs. They kind of encourage you to run the stop signs, but I feel like bikes get more respect acting like cars and following the laws. I do what many do - slow for the stop signs, but on that particular boulevard it seems kind of dumb . . .
Separate bike arteries would be great, I have yet to travel any length on the Bay Trail as it doesn't go anywhere I want to go (except for just recreation) but it looks pretty dreamy. -
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Mon, October 10, 2005 - 10:19 AM> They kind of encourage you to run the stop signs, but I feel like bikes get more respect acting like cars and following the laws.
I agree with you there. I tend to be caught in the middle on a lot of bike politics because of my POV. The way I approach stop signs is that I slow, look and listen. If there are no cars or others I need to stop/yield for, I don't stop at the stop sign. If there are approaching cars, pedestrians, whatever, I'll stop.
I agree that cyclists that blow through lights, signs, ride the wrong way up the street, etc. generate a lot of ill will for cyclists in general. -
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Sun, October 16, 2005 - 9:00 PMThe "Listen then go" thing failed me recently at a stop sign.
I rammed into a Prius. Oh the irony. -
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Wed, October 19, 2005 - 4:41 PMyeah, they're sneaky buggers.
Don't you mean a Pious? ;-)
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Re: Emeryville Bike Blvd.
Sat, February 4, 2006 - 1:28 AMinteresting thread...just stumbled upon it after googling "emeryville
bike boulevard"
Currently the berkeley bike boulevard network exists in name only,
in many ways.
The intent of the bike boulevard design plan is to:
1) install signage and pavement legends to establish network & identity
2) replace stop signs with traffic calming devices. note the word "replace"
not make redundant, which is what most of the new traffic circles have done
3) create safe crossings where Bike Blvds intersect arterials (i.e. Channing &
MLK-style traffic signal or similar treatments)
Phase 1 is done. The other two are just beginning to be implemented,
with battles by Nimbys every block of the way.
As someone who was very involved in the creation of the plan, it is sad to see
it taking sooo long to be implemented. Our intent all along with the stop sign
removal was to promote efficient cycling routes and to legalize current practice
(cyclists disobeying stop signs), by creating bicycle-priority streets to promote
cycling by people of all ages and abilities. but opposition to just about every
traffic calming device by various interest groups has made it difficult to find
tools to calm traffic in lieu of stop signs.
But you're right, bike blvds are still just one piece of the bike network. Bike
lanes on arterials & collector streets are still essential. I choose telegraph
over hillegass or hearst over virginia 90% of the time. hopefully in the next
bike plan update we'll get more bike lanes!
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